- "In Groups We Shrink" by Carol Tavris (pg. 261)
- "The Rights of the Born" by Anne Lamott (pg. 271)
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In what way(s) are these two articles in dialogue with one another? Can you apply the ideas expressed in "In Groups We Shrink" with the situation described by Anne Lamott in "The Rights of the Born"?
I believe that these two articles dialogues with one another is there point of view in which they see things. In the article "Groups We Shrink" by Carol Tavris shows us how when a person is alone and see something happening reacts on the spot but when they are in a group and something occurs they take a while longer to react. And her explanation to this that they are not lazy it has to do more with the nature of groups than the nature of an individual. Which i think her thought was not fully wrong because there are some people who react while there with people or alone. I also agree with what she states about how one should do the moral thing which can cause you to be disliked,embarrassed and rejected which does not matter b.c in the end you did what you felt was the right thing to do at the time. This also connects with the article "The Rights of the Born" by Anne Lamont in which she spoken what she felt about women having the right to make the decision of whether or not to have the baby and if it was really consider a murder. Where not many people at that reception would have open up like Anne did and talked about what she felt. In which many woman there could have related to what she had to say but just didn't have the courage to say anything. I believe that both the articles is about moral issues and one should say and do what they believe in.
ReplyDeleteafter reading both articles , its seems that the idea of the first, "in groups we shrink" describes how peoples morality and good will is altered by the presence of others. this is ultimately mirrored in the second article"the rights of the born" it is the classic majority rules situation where as the same kind of manipulation as far as individual decision making
ReplyDeleteMoral, principles and humanity are shown to us in few examples. In the first one "In Groups We Shrink" by Carol Tavris, the author’s point of view is that people are acting differently when they are alone or in groups. Following by the second one "The Rights of the Born" by Anne Lamott, is about the abortions rights which are strongly connected to humanity and moral. Proved by the situations I believe that both articles have some connection.
ReplyDeleteIn the first article: "In Groups We Shrink" by Carol Tavris, the author shows us how people act when they alone or in group. One of the experiments was that "students were seated either alone or in groups of three" when smoke showed up. Students who were by their own responded much faster than students sitting in groups.
ReplyDeleteThe second article: ""The Rights of the Born" by Anne Lamott, brings up the issue of abortion. On one side were people who think abortion is wrong because it is like a murder. on the other side were people who believe abortion is the best way out for many women.
I think we could connect both articles in some ways. My connection is women who had an abortion or are about to have would act differently if they are by their own or they have somebody that thay could rely on (group).
The first article and the second article play into each other. The first article "In Groups We Shrink" talks about how people tend not to be themselves when they are in a group. The students in the group were more reserved than those that were left alone. But in the second article "The Rights of the Born" didnt fall victim to the crowd. Although she wanted so badly to because she knew what the consequences of speaking out. But with all the urge building up it spilled out she spoke out above the rest and in the end she was praised for it.
ReplyDeleteFrom the article I read we could see how people react. For example the first article talk about how people act different while being alone or with a grupo of friendsalot of people when they with a friend they some how act different I guess to fit in .. The other article talk about abortion right that has to do with humanity and moral thought ..
ReplyDeleteThe passage "In Groups We Shrink" by Carol Tavris talks about how people in groups behave together. That they cannot think by themselves. For example Kitty was wounded and killed in front of her New York apartment. No one did anything to stop this shocking situation. By this example Author wanted to show that people in groups are selfish than those people who are alone.
ReplyDeleteThe second passage "The Rights of the Born" by Anne Lamott talks about killing innocent babies. Also it stated the difference between pro-life and pro-choice. Pro-life see woman and baby as one body but in pro-choice two people are involved in this act.
First article describes the actions and thoughts when a people are grouped together. Carol's article presented the groups behavior as devoid of responsibilities in contrast to a situation of person being alone.
ReplyDeleteIn "The rights to be born" the author states an instance where she refuses to succumb to peer pressure and offered her view points.
This relates to the first article as another woman in the crowd had refused to speak up, probably expecting someone else to.
the two articles dialogues intertwine with each other because inthe first article we see how we as humans when put into a group do not do anything in a situation and the same idea is told inthe 2nd article in which she wants to say something but doesnt because she sees a large group of people.
ReplyDeleteTo make it really simple i shall say that groups can affect us by being bias towards ones side. In some groups people can be aware of the situation and act upon it and in others people think in an individualistic way. The biggest key in affecting a group or an individual is by ones persuasive actions.
ReplyDeleteBefore reading these articles i am always very carefull specially in group, but that's not mean i dont act differently sometime. I believe this goes to everybody once in a situation whether to witness or participate, we always have different approach bout the matter. In line six,Carol Tavris "in groups we shrink" explain to us how responsability differ to person to group of peoples.
ReplyDeleteThe second one related to freedom of choice, and this more ethical issue and faith about deciding wether or not people should accept all the consequences to abortion.
I believe these two articles "in groups we shrink" and "the rights of the born" shows how people react to a certain situation when they are in groups and when they are alone. It shows that when something occurs and we are alone we respond to the given situation faster and do what is right. When we are in groups we react differently, even though we know the right thing to do we don't because we dint see others do what is right so we are influenced y them in a way at that moment.
ReplyDeleteThe article "in the group we shrink" Tavris states that when something happens, an individual person will deal with the problem by his or her nature but an individual who is in a group will deal with the problem depending on other group members behaviors.
ReplyDeleteAnne Lamott in "The Rights of the Born", she outs herself as a woman who has had an abortion, and declares that many of the other women in the room surely have, too: "I announced that I needed to speak out on behalf of the many women present in the crowd, including myself, who had had abortions, and the women whose daughters might need one in the not-too-distant future -- people who must know that teenage girls will have abortions, whether in clinics or dirty backrooms. Women whose lives had been righted and redeemed by Roe vs. Wade. My answer was met with some applause but mostly a shocked silence."
According to article "in the group we shrink" by Travis states that individulas act differently while in the group. I would say that when people are on their own in any situation they are more active and responsible rather than a group. The other article, "The rights of the born" by Anne Lamott is about the right of abortion which is related with humanity and morality. Both articles have connection about difference taking decision individually and in group.
ReplyDeleteIn "Groups We Shrink" by Carol Tavris, talks about how people in groups tend to react alittle longer or dont react at all to a situation of danger or distress. where in situations where indivuals are alone there react immediatly. she goes on to say that people in groups say that they hesitate to react because they dont want to be embaress, or be dislike, or because someone already reacted to it. Ms. Tavris goes on to say about doing the moral thing in certain situations. In "The Right To Be Born" by Anne Lamont, she gives her opinion on how she feels that women should have the right to make the decision to have an obortion or keep the baby and if its consider murder. Both articles are about having morals and doing the right thing. I believe that a person should have the right to decide what they believe what right for them,has long as it's moraly correct.
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